Showing posts with label MVC standings. Show all posts
Showing posts with label MVC standings. Show all posts

February 25, 2010

A long drive back from Peoria

For the second straight time, five hours of driving was truly worth it to see another classic basketball game. Bradley knocked off Wichita State on senior night, and with the other results in the Valley, now has secured a spot outside of the play-in game next Thursday.

The game was very entertaining, with Bradley jumping out to a huge lead early and sustaining that through halftime. But then Wichita State caught fire from the floor and whittled the entire lead away for the Braves. In the end, two clutch three pointers and steal helped seal a 75-73 victory.

I will have a full recap up tomorrow as well some of the many pictures I took at the game.

Here's how the MVC standings look:





Conference Tiebreaker Pts.



Place Wins Losses Max. Earned
Northern Iowa

1 14 3
171 123
Wichita State*


2 11 6
177 103
Illinois State*

2 11 6
177 93
Creighton


4 9
8
185 60
Bradley


49
8 185
69
Missouri State


6
8
9
187 59
Indiana State


6
8
9 193 57
Drake


7 7
10
193 61
Southern Ill.


9 6
11 203 48
Evansville

10 2
15
207 35

Notes: Wichita State leads the second place tiebreaker based upon playoff points; Creighton currently leads the fourth place tiebreaker as it is 1-0 v. Bradley; Missouri State leads the sixth place tiebreaker based upon a 1-0 record v. Indiana State

Obviously the stunner was Evansville knocking off nationally ranked Northern Iowa yesterday. But this had no real effect on the standings.

The I-74 rivals really strengthened their positions in the standings. Bradley cannot finish lower than 6th, as the loser of the Missouri State-Indiana State game will have 10 losses. Additionally, the Wichita State victory gives Bradley an opportunity to claim the fourth spot with a win in Omaha.

Illinois State also had a big win, making sure that Indiana State would not have a chance to catch the Redbirds in the standings. Bradley (though fans never would admit it) did the Redbirds a serious favor by beating the Shockers. Now Illinois State will likely earn that critical second seed if the the team can find a way to win at Northern Iowa.

February 17, 2010

MVC standings could still see radical changes

Two favored teams almost stumbled at home tonight as both Wichita State and Illinois State barely won close games against Evansville and Missouri State, respectively.

What does that do to the MVC Standings? Let's take a look:





Conference Tiebreaker Pts.



Place Wins Losses Max. Earned
Northern Iowa

1 14 2
171 124
Wichita State


2 11 5 175 103
Illinois State

3 10 6
179 81
Creighton*


4 8 8
187 58
Indiana State*


48
8 187
56
Bradley*


4
8
8 187 56
Drake

7 7
9 197 58
Missouri State


7 7
9 197 54
Southern Ill.


9 6
10 203 47
Evansville

10 1
15
207 17

* - Creighton leads the mini round-robin 2-1, Indiana State is 2-2, Bradley is 1-2

Now all of the upcoming scenarios left:

Northern Iowa

Current state: Clinched the conference title and the top overall seed in the MVC tournament.

Remaining games: at Evansville, vs. Illinois State

Tiebreaker thoughts: None, as they have clinched the 1 seed

Outlook: Northern Iowa, though it has locked up the regular season, will continue to play its remaining two games as the Panthers are trying to improve their seed in the eyes of the selection committee. A lapse in either of their last two games could really hurt their place on Selection Sunday.

Wichita State

Current state - Clinched no worse than third place overall, currently sits ahead of Illinois State by one game for second

Remaining games: at Bradley, vs. Southern Ill.

Tiebreaker thoughts: Illinois State (1-1); The only team Wichita State has to worry about for tiebreakers are the Redbirds. This would go down to tiebreaker points if both teams finish 12-6. Since this would require Illinois State to win at Northern Iowa, the tiebreaker would go to Illinois State.

Outlook: The game at Bradley is huge for both teams. The Shockers can essentially lock up the two seed with a win in Peoria. Considering the fact that Wichita State is 16-0 at home this season, the home finale against Southern Illinois can almost be considered a lock, even after the scare by Evansville.

Illinois State

Current state: The Redbirds are one game out of second place and two games ahead of three teams tied for third.

Remaining games: vs. Indiana State, at Northern Iowa

Tiebreaker thoughts: Wichita State (Yes, if it comes into play, see above for explanation); Creighton (Yes, 2-0), Bradley (Yes, 2-0), Indiana State (0-1, TBD)

Outlook: Illinois State can win out and have a chance at second place with one Wichita State loss. The Redbirds have done a good job against the teams chasing them, eliminating any possibility of Creighton or Bradley from moving ahead. The interesting part comes in with Indiana State, who has to go to Redbird Arena next Wednesday. The Sycamores have a winnable finale at home against Missouri State and would win the tiebreaker against Illinois State if they can pull an upset. In a worst case scenario, Illinois State finishes 4th.

Creighton

Current state: Currently tied for fourth place, would be the 4 seed if the season ended today based upon a 2-1 record against Bradley & Indiana State

Remaining games: at Southern Illinois, vs. Bradley

Tiebreaker thoughts: Illinois State (No, 0-2), Bradley (TBD, 1-0), Indiana State (1-1), Drake (1-1), Missouri State (1-1), Southern Illinois (TBD, 1-0)

Outlook: From Creighton down through Southern Illinois, the tiebreakers could really go a variety of ways. Both of the Bluejays remaining games aren't easy, considering the rivalry with Southern Illinois as well as a Bradley team who could beat any team in the league on a given night.

In one possible scenario, Creighton could win both games and if Indiana State also wins out, there's a chance for an tie in tiebreaker points. If this somehow happened, it would go the rare final tiebreaker of RPI. Indiana State has a RPI of 87 going into tonight as opposed to Creighton who came in with a RPI of 127. There simply won't be that large of a shift in the RPI this late in the season, so Indiana State would earn the higher seed.

Of course, if this were for the 4-5 game, all that comes from these complicated formulas is what color jerseys you wear. Of course, a win here or a loss there always shifts the balance of the tiebreaker formula so it simply is too close to call who would win tiebreaker points at this stage against Creighton.

Indiana State

Current state: Currently tied for fourth place, would be the 5 seed if the season ended today based upon a 2-2 record against Bradley & Indiana State

Remaining games: at Illinois State, vs. Missouri State

Tiebreaker thoughts: Illinois State (TBD, 1-0, see explanation in the Redbirds section), Creighton (1-1), Bradley (1-1), Drake (Yes, 2-0), Missouri State (TBD, 0-1), Southern Illinois (1-1)

Outlook: Indiana State has the most direct effect on the resolution of the conference standings than pretty much any other team. Though other teams have big games as well, with the Sycamores winning 5 of 7, two more victory are definitely possible.

And with those two wins, Indiana State could finish as high as third. Yet, with two losses a variety of other factors, the Sycamores could sink to as low as the 9 seed. This is highly unlikely, though. A split would probably get Indiana State into the five seed but the Bradley-Creighton game will have a significant impact on that as well.

Bradley

Current state: Bradley is tied for fourth place and would be the 6 seed in the tournament based upon

Remaining games: vs. Wichita State, at Creighton

Tiebreaker thoughts: Illinois State (No, 0-2), Creighton (TBD, 0-1), Indiana State (1-1), Drake (Yes, 2-0), Missouri State (1-1)

Outlook: Nobody can really gauge what Bradley will do in its final two games. If the team can pull together two consecutive wins, fourth place seems very likely. Two losses would put the Braves in the 6-7-8 range. The series sweep against Drake is huge here as Bradley is likely to win most round-robin tiebreakers as a result. The Braves can thank the Bulldogs for most likely keeping them out of the play-in game. Again though, a lot of different results (especially with how Missouri State does against Drake and Indiana State) could really sway the Bradley seeding.

Drake

Current state: Drake is currently tied for seventh place and would currently be the 7 seed as they hold a 1-0 series advantage against Missouri State.

Remaining games: at Missouri State, vs. Evansville

Tiebreaker thoughts: Creighton (1-1), Indiana State (No, 0-2), Bradley (No, 0-2), Missouri State (TBD, 1-0), Southern Illinois (Yes, 2-0)

Outlook: Series sweeps by both Bradley and Indiana State will likely relegate the Bulldogs to the play-in game. As a minor consolation, a sweep against Southern Illinois will probably keep Drake at the worst the 8 seed.

With such a close race and remaining games against important teams, Drake could get out of the play-in game by winning at Missouri State and hoping that either Bradley or Indiana State loses both games.

Missouri State

Current state: Missouri State is currently tied for seventh place and would currently be the 8 seed as they trail a 0-1 series disadvantage against Drake.

Remaining games: vs. Drake, at Indiana State

Tiebreaker thoughts: Creighton (1-1), Indiana State (TBD, 1-0), Bradley (1-1), Drake (TBD, 0-1), Southern Illinois (1-1)

Outlook: Missouri State sits in a very similar position to Drake. Win that head-to-head game and that will likely earn the 7 seed. But find a way to win at Indiana State as well and probably jump out of the play-in game into the 6 spot. Like many other teams, there are so many moving parts that tiebreakers are just too close to call.

Southern Illinois

Current state: 9th place, one game out of seventh

Remaining games: vs. Creighton, at Wichita State

Tiebreaker thoughts: Creighton (TBD, 0-1), Indiana State (1-1), Bradley (1-1), Drake (No, 0-2), Missouri State (1-1)

Outlook: The Salukis have two major things working for them. They are not trailing any important tiebreakers other than Drake. Also, they would gain a bundle of tiebreaker points by winning their last two games. But the challenge will be actually pulling off either of these upsets. Southern Illinois is going to be in the play-in game and most likely will remain the 9 seed.

Evansville

Current state: 10th place with no hope of gaining any ground

Remaining games: vs. Northern Iowa, at Drake

Tiebreaker thoughts: N/A

Outlook: The only thing Evansville can do to upset the balance of the standings at this point is to knock off Drake in the final game of the season. Though surely every fan would expect the Bulldogs to win on senior night in Des Moines, a defeat to the Purple Aces would almost assuredly send Drake to the play-in game.

February 25, 2009

Missouri Valley Picture Gets Clearer

Northern Iowa's big win at Illinois State assures the Panthers of finishing in the top two in the Valley, while ISU has locked up the third seed in the tournament.

Let's check out the full standings after 17 of 18 league games:




Conference Tiebreaker Pts.


Place Wins Losses Max. Earned
Northern Iowa
1 13 4
173
125 (+18)
Creighton
1
13 4 173
107 (+11)
Illinois State
3 11 6
179 91 (+1)
Bradley
4 9
8
183 62 (+3)
Wichita State

5 8
9
189 75 (0)
Evansville

5 8
9
189 50 (+8)
Drake
7
7
10
197 72 (+2)
Southern Ill.
7
7
10
197
48 (+8)
Indiana State
9
6
11 201 65 (-1)
Missouri State
10 3 14 207 26 (-1)

Just like last time, I'll remind those who read breakdown that we're merely talking about tournament seeding. If Northern Iowa and Creighton both win Saturday, they'd be crowned conference co-champions. But UNI would be the top seed.

The Panthers split with Creighton, so they would win any tie by virtue of an insurmountable advantage in tiebreaker points. Even with a Creighton win over Illinois State this weekend, it would not be enough to catch UNI.

So with things pretty simple at the top, it's still very foggy in the middle of the Valley. Bradley's disappointing performance at Evansville drops the Braves much closer to the pack. A win would have clinched the 4th seed, but now Saturday's home finale against Drake has even greater importance than just senior night.

Bradley could make it very simple and just win at home, which would lock up the 4th seed. The Braves might be able to back into that same seed by Wichita State (at Southern Illinois) and Evansville (at Northern Iowa) both losing, which is very plausible.

If we have some ties, here's how it will look:

    -If Bradley ties Wichita State at 9-9, then the Braves take the 4th seed (head-to-head, 2-0)
    -If Bradley ties Evansville at 9-9, then the tiebreaker points would get extremely close. I've ran through some of the more likely scenarios of outcomes and it looks like the Purple Aces would claim the 4th seed — barely. The key is all of the points that Evansville would be making by knocking off one of the top two teams in the league. But what are the chances that Evansville can go into Cedar Falls and knock off a team that is trying to clinch a conference championship?
    -If there's a tie at 9-9 between all three teams, Bradley wins this tiebreaker as well. The league adds together the head-to-head records against all tied opponents. Bradley won three of four, while Evansville was 2-2 (and would earn the 5th seed) and Wichita State would be 1-3 and be seeded sixth.

Looking at all of those possibilities, it seems almost certain that Bradley's going to be seeded 4th in the Valley tournament. Wichita State, Evansville and even Southern Illinois could be potential opponents.

The seeding from 5th to 8th is even worse than 4th to 6th. There's a definite possibility that there could be a three- or four-way tie at 8-10. If all of the home teams win this weekend, then Wichita State, Evansville and Southern Illinois would be tied (Drake would fall to 7-11 and be seeded 8th or 9th). Southern Illinois would actually win this tiebreaker, securing two wins over Wichita State.

The team that has no idea where it is going has to be the Salukis. SIU could finish as high as 5th (if that four-way tie were to happen) but could drop as low as 9th! Wichita State has almost as confusing of a situation, looking at somewhere between 5th and 8th.

With so many possibilities still out there, keep in mind a few things:

    -Evansville and Wichita State stay out of the play-in game with wins.
    -SIU is the only team in this bunch that is at home, which is certainly an advantage.
    -Wichita State would lose a head-to-head tie with SIU, but otherwise has the most tiebreaker points at the moment.
    -Anything can happen - the Valley is really mediocre this year and nothing surprises me anymore!

Looking near the bottom of the standings, Indiana State is locked in the play-in game, but could finish anywhere between 7th and 9th still. Missouri State will be the 10th seed, having already clinched the cellar in the conference.

February 16, 2009

MVC tiebreaker update

Last year I took the time to create a spreadsheet that would calculate the MVC tiebreaker procedures. Even to this day, it's a work in progress. The challenging part about the system is that depending on every game, the numbers change. So, the spreadsheet has to be set up to make that fluid.

So, here's the current tiebreaker breakdown as I have everything calculated:




Conference Tiebreaker Pts.


Place Wins Losses Max. Earned
Northern Iowa
1 12 3 171 108
Creighton
2 11 4 175 96
Illinois State
3 10 5 179 80
Bradley
4 8 7 183 61
Wichita State
5 7 8 189 72
Evansville
5 7 8 189 37
Drake
7 6 9 197 52
Southern Ill.
7 6 9 197 41
Indiana State
9 5 10 203 59
Missouri State
10 3 12 207 26

(Wichita State would be the 5 seed right now, as it split with Evansville and has a sizable margin in tiebreaker points. Drake has won the only game between it and the Salukis and also is the leader in tiebreaker points. An SIU win over Drake could make it very interesting.)

Now, here's a team-by-team breakdown. Please note the semantics here. If the season ended today, Wichita State and Evansville would both be considered in a tie for fifth place. But all we're looking at now is the possibility of seeding for Arch Madness in St. Louis.

First let's look at who holds head-to-head tiebreakers:

Northern Iowa - Bradley, Missouri State, Southern Illinois

Creighton - Bradley, Indiana State, Southern Illinois

Illinois State - Evansville, Missouri State, Southern Illinois

Bradley - Indiana State, Wichita State

Wichita State - None

Evansville - Drake, Indiana State

Drake - None

Southern Illinois - Missouri State

Indiana State - Illinois State

Missouri State - None

Bradley's two wins over the Shockers will almost surely keep the Braves ahead, barring a very poor finish from the Bradley against some weak opponents. Evansville's sweep of Drake should prevent the Aces from being in the play-in game.

Some important scenarios obviously haven't been determined yet. Illinois State leads its series with Creighton 1-0. The Redbirds trail the series with Northern Iowa but Illinois State has its chance against UNI in Normal next week. Southern Illinois will likely have a lot to do with who is in the play-in game, as it still has games against Drake and Wichita State remaining.

Predicted finish as of 12/15 (assuming generally that home teams will win in close matchups):

1. Creighton 14-4 (W vs. Evansville, W @ Missouri State, W vs. Illinois State / Would likely lead in tiebreaker points over UNI if they win out)

2. Northern Iowa 14-4 (W vs. Drake, L @ Illinois State, W vs. Evansville)

3. Illinois State 12-6 (W vs. Wichita State, W v. Northern Iowa, L @ Creighton)

4. Bradley 10-8 (W vs. Missouri State, L @ Evansville, W vs. Drake)

5. Wichita State 9-9 (L @ Illinois State, W vs. Indiana State, W @ Southern Illinois - just have a feeling)

6. Evansville 8-10 (L @ Creighton, W vs. Bradley, L @ Northern Iowa)

7. Drake 7-11 (Will edge SIU due to "prospective" head-to-head sweep / L @ Northern Iowa, W vs. Southern Illinois, L @ Bradley)

8. Southern Illinois 7-11 (W vs. Indiana State, L @ Drake, L vs. Wichita State)

9. Indiana State 6-12 (L @ Southern Illinois, L @ Wichita State, W vs. Missouri State)

10. Missouri State 3-15 (L @ Bradley, L vs. Creighton, L @ Indiana State)

But as any Valley fan knows, things could change in a heartbeat. Illinois State could make a run for the title still.